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There is nothing wrong with being 'dizgruntled' if you feel you have been taken advantage of.
I've vented. I'm tired now. See y'all later.
Ok, well, I think this has lost most of the fun for me.
I'm kind-of bored.
Did you miss the original posts?
Would you like another former employee's take on things?
Check it out:
http://eprizenolimits.blogspot.com/
Cached versions of old comment lines: (not all)
http://www.cocomment.com/blog/48916
Hey - Granholm even has a blog about eprize. lol
http://granholmcherry2006.com/blog/?p=49#comments
posted by dizgruntled at 3:17 PM
35 Comments:
Funny, anyone googled lately?
try eprize
then eprize blog
then eprize employee
I think if anyone was trying to research the company for employment purposes, they would have some information at their disposal now.
Excellent.
Hey, any word on those 'new hires'? Anyone resign today? Get let go?
How are those changes coming over there in P.R.?
Still working over 50 hours?
Hmmm, it's almost 5...I gotta go.
the work day is done.
4:42 PM
So are you are happy that your malicious plan is working to discredit ePrize making it harder for them to recruit? Wow. How proud you must be. I'm sure they miss you.
5:56 PM
Another question - how long are you going to sit around and dwell on the past? You've made your point - you didn't like ePrize and you left. Are you going to re-hash the same issues forever, or do you ever plan to move on with your life? Why you are getting pleasure out of hurting others speaks a lot to your character. Does it make you feel important?
We get it. Enough is enough. Get over it and move on. No one cares anymore about how bad you had it. You think you have it bad compared to all the tragedy in the world?
There are are so many positive and productive ways to spend your time and energy. You are not making the world a better place by doing this. Move on already.
6:08 PM
It's really not about discrediting ePrize, I think they do that very well on their own. It's about providing current/future employees with all the information they should have to make an educated decision about their jobs.
Unfortunately, a lot of ePrizers think that ePrize represents the top of the mountain as far as IT jobs are concerned. That is very far from the truth. The "perks" they offer don't even begin to make up for the obscene hours, the low pay and the overall amount of bullshit at that company. These things need to be made public, which is what dizgruntled started and you can rest assured we will continue.
For those ePrizers who posted, I'm curious as to which ePrize category you fall into. There are only a few types of people that ePrize hires, did you know that?
1. Friends, relatives and religious equals. These people are usually lost on the road of life but are offered a job because they know someone high up on the food chain. Most of the time they are hired without an interview. These people make the best project managers. No, really! Go team!
2. Eye catchers. Pretty women and men who are eye candy for future/present clients, media and possible future hires. They are pretty much all dumber than my left nut. Working with them day to day is a wonderful experience. Really. I love to repeat the same damn thing over, and over, and over again. Apparently computers are non-deterministic and magical. Yep. These make the second best type of project manager.
3. The actual hard workers. These are the technical people that actually know their shit and work their asses off for their company. Without them every single promotion would be a disaster. They are how the company stays alive and makes money. They are the smartest and hardest working people around, they are also the first ones to go (by choice or by force).
So which ones are you?
10:06 PM
OMG ePrizer LOL
I often wondered why I saw PMs killing chickens around the office - must have been some kind of voodoo ritual to reboot their computer.
I didn't work with too many #2s but definitely a lot of #1s and 3s. Funny how the #1s just kept filtering up and up... They could do no wrong.
10:14 PM
BTW, eprizer, if you're so bent out of shape, just consider this a blog from current "Slither" employees and not ex/current ePrizers.
10:18 PM
Eprizer....
This blog is not going to ruin Eprize.
It may dissuade persons who would quit (faster) from ever starting, and wasting everyones time, in the first place.
If you don't like the blog don't come back to it.
Its giving more than a few people and outlet to talk about something that bothers them.
It seems to me dizgruntled mentioned spending hours dontaing time working for a non profit, that seems constructive to me.
10:43 PM
A few things for you haters to consider:
1) There is so much change going on it is sick. The company is not standing still, it is filled with efforts to fix most of your complaints.
2) They are hiring a ton of people to help with the growth and improve work-life balance.
3) There is a whole team called Mousetrap whose job it is to fix some of these problems.
4) They have listented to some of my suggestions. Not all, but many. I know many things underway right now were from employee sugestions.
So you are pissed that they didn't immediately jump on every single suggestion you had? If you are the all-knowing one, why aren't you running a company the size of ePrize? Did you ever think that there may be good reasons not to do every suggestion that comes in? Maybe some are being phased in. In you new job, do you waltz down to the CEO's office, make a suggestion, and it is up by the end of the day?
I just think you guys are spending so much time being spiteful and malicious. You are proud that you can be found in Google spewing hate?
"Oh. Poor me. I worked 150+ hours per week, everything I did was great and the evil company brought me down. I'm now a shell of a man. All the problems in my life and in the world are ePrize's fault. Even though I left months ago, I'm going to devote my life to spewing hate to bring down these evil monsters. They are the root of all evil, and I'm going to re-hash my same complaints for the next 15 years. Look at me! Look at me!"
Sound familiar?
8:42 AM
ePrizer, please grow up, put up, or shut up. Those are your options. To be perfectly honest, I'd prefer if you just kept your mouth quiet.
OK, that wasn't very nice, but you are very very naive. We are not spewing hate. We are speaking the truth. Spewing hate would be if I said that the Holocaust never occurred or if I said that African Americans should never have gotton the opportunity to vote or if I said that if you don't speak English by the time you come to the States, you should be deported. Not only are those statements hateful, hurtful, and ignorant, I don't believe them.
While it is true that it is impossible to incorporate every single employee's suggestion, the ones that make sense and would make the company efficient should be. In my former position, I was privy to a lot of confidential information and let's just say I rubbed elbows with Leadership more than I would have liked. If I wanted to talk to them, I could just IM or phone them and walk right in, usually without setting something up formally. So dear ePrizer, I definitely shared my concerns, however, my concerns were not taken seriously...at all.
And exprizer, I hear what you're saying about the types of people that are hired. But let's just say some of #2 eyecatchers/eyecandy where also #3 hard workers!
ePrizer, I second the motion - stop reporting the goings on at ePrize, we all left for a reason, whether it was by force or choice. I am pleased that ePrize is trying to be a better place. They better when they are getting at least a $1 million in loans and they promised Jennifer Granholm that they would provide 450 full-time jobs. They had better get themselves in order. Or they will truly be put on blast street and demonstrate who they truly are.
Finally, this is our outlet. We will not be silenced. You may tell on us if you want, but we're all strong-willed individuals. Hmmm, maybe that's why we're all on the outside of ePrize - not looking in.
Take care and God's speed.
10:13 AM
This is a good one from Dizrespected:
"stop reporting the goings on at ePrize, we all left for a reason, whether it was by force or choice."
So you are really saying that you really don't care about any progress or positive changes, you'd prefer to sit around and dwell on the past and how bad things were. Why talk about improvements when you can focus on previously bad things?
That is exactly like dwelling on how bad things used to be before we had antibiodics. Why talk about the cure when you can dwell on the past? Man, it sucked when we were under British rule 230 years ago!
You only want people to co-misserate with you about how "wronged" you were in the past, but care nothing about the present of future. I can see why your proposed "changes" were not adopted by management considering how misguided your logic is here.
6:28 PM
ePrizer, you know what? You are absolutely right. Thank you for telling me why Leadership rejected my "illogical ideas".
Tell me, since you are a "lover and not a hater", why are you so intrigued by our complaints? Are you honestly taking them back to Leadership (remember, they've heard them in the past) so that you and the other Kool-aid, Coke Zero, and Diet Cherry Coke drinkers can make the changes so that y'all finally begin to run a business properly? And by properly, I mean with integrity, values, morals, and respect. It's not just about the Benjamins. I seriously doubt it.
Please enlighten us some more. We're all waiting for your next punch line.
Take care and God's speed.
8:02 PM
I keep trying to stay away from here. I really don't have anything more to say. And neither do you.
But..
"Those are your options. To be perfectly honest, I'd prefer if you just kept your mouth quiet."
I have nothing else to say.
Joshua Hamman.
1:31 AM
Hey, Joshua Hamman... what does Linkner's ass taste like?
Oh wait, I could just ask any other super jazzed ePrizer. Nevermind.
3:21 PM
eprizer:
"1) There is so much change going on it is sick. The company is not standing still, it is filled with efforts to fix most of your complaints.
2) They are hiring a ton of people to help with the growth and improve work-life balance.
3) There is a whole team called Mousetrap whose job it is to fix some of these problems.
4) They have listented to some of my suggestions. Not all, but many. I know many things underway right now were from employee sugestions."
So when exactly are your daily conferences with Alesya? You quote diz and say that their logic is broken because we don't want to hear what you have to say. You come off like someone from marketing, NOT someone who's working there, at least most of the time... We don't need marketing spin, and neither does the uh 'target audience'. They can get that shit from eprize.com or from the local news outlets.
I think some of us (I know I am) are proud that we show up on google. Why shouldn't we. You bitch about us being negative, why can't there be a counter point to the marketing shitstream that Alesya feeds to the media?
6:55 PM
No counter opinion allowed.
9:58 PM
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."
Teddy Roosevelt
(Paris Sorbonne, 1910)
10:51 PM
It's always easier to quote a great person when you have nothing of value to say yourself. Good job. You get a cookie.
12:03 AM
What a bunch of belly-achers! Poor me - I'm not getting enough perks for the amount of work they're giving me - they don't appreciate me!
Man - there are people here losing their jobs and would give their right arm to have the chance to earn a living.
In fact, I have the same situation now that you guys had at Eprize - except I don't get free pop - I don't get my lunch delivered - and many don't get bonuses in the auto industry!
Do you know why you guys are so sad - too bad you guys don't have the guts to use your real names - no employeer in their right minds would take you in if they knew about the crap coming out of your mouths on this Blog site!
Whenever I interview new applicants at my current company - there's a big red flag whenever one of them bitches too much about their previous employeer...
What this really is all about is you guys just can't stand the fact that Eprize has been making big news lately - the timing of your blog is amazing...
I guess I can expect some more crying from you guys now about how many hours you had to work!
Cry - baby - cry!
I wanna see some real tears!
I wanna see all the pain the real world has caused your little hearts!
Losers....
11:28 AM
Won't see any tears from me anymore. But there were plenty when I kept hitting my head against that brick wall while working at ePrize.
2:19 PM
Do everyone a favor "NoLimits" and "dizgruntled":
The constant changes and stress involved in the IT business (or most other businesses for that matter) are too much for you to handle.
Get out and work for a union where you just come in and hardly work for 8 hours a day - then go home and drink beer.
You guys are everything that is wrong with America. America is getting their asses kicked because they're too lazy to compete with harder working nations like Japan.
Right now it's about 3:00 pm - so you should be thinking about going home within the next hour to eat dinner and watch TV for the rest of the evening.
Write a few more lines of code and call it a day.........slackers!
3:12 PM
AutoSupplier, for your information, 12+ hour work days are not required to be competitive in the IT industry. As I've said before, most of my friends work IT and go home on time. These are people who work for very large, successful companies.
And, by the way, your mom says "hi"
7:30 PM
Autosupplier, you said, "...there are people here losing their jobs and would give their right arm to have the chance to earn a living."
If you have kept up with what we have been posting, you will recognize that one of the reasons many of us are angry is because we lost our jobs at ePrize and/or were forced to quit because what we signed up for and the reality of working at ePrize was incongruous.
Further, I am not willing to give my right arm to work at a company that is disrespectful to my colleagues and I. I have principles. It's not all about money for me. While others are free to give their right arms, legs, and ears. That's definitely their own business.
We are not "a bunch of belly-achers" as you so inaccurately stated. It looks like we may have to go back to the basics with you: this is an opportunity for former employees to vent and have an active discussion. If you believe it is negative and/or you are no longer interested in reading "a bunch of belly-achers" posting their own opinions, feel free to check out and ensure that your job is secure.
The irony of your inaccurate statements is that as I was unemployed for many months due to my untimely departure from ePrize I thought a lot about the economy especially here in Michigan and I was very sympathetic to former employees of the Big 3 because many of them have given their lives to ensure that Ford, GM, and Chrysler Diamler were successful and for what? Many have been laid off. Ford just announced that they were planning on closing more plants in Dearborn.
If you look at one of my previous posts, loyalty is for the birds. I can appreciate employees that are dedicated to doing excellent work and even those that are dedicated and passionate about their job. However, I caution people against living for thier employer because you can be sure that your employer is not living for you, with or without the perks.
Take care and God's speed.
11:40 PM
exprizer.
seriously. grow up.
I'm really sorry that you were't able to enjoy your experience at ePrize, I really am. But does calling me an ass kisser further any of this discussion?
If having a positive opinion of where I work makes me an ass kisser, then I suppose I am. But what would your actions make you? An angry, childish person who is unable to let go of things, who feels the need to call people names if they disagree with him.
"So good to be me."
12:09 AM
Joshua, I thought you had nothing else to say?
The reason I call you bastards names is because I enjoy it. Am I childish? Sure. But it's pretty f'n funny.
You're all little sheep, waiting to be slaughtered by the money thirsty machine that is ePrize. I have nothing but pity for you naive little slaves.
I believe it when you say that you love your jobs. I'm guessing you also love reality shows, overpriced designer clothes and Mr. Bush. That is fine, the world needs morons, it makes the rest of us feel even smarter.
Now go VPN in and do some more work, Big Brother is watching.
1:25 AM
Most people would agree that what you guys call an "opportunity for former employees to vent and have an active discussion" is extremely unprofessional and inappropriate. The fact that an outsider like me can bud in and join this conversation is proof of that.
Crying to the world about the problems you had at your previous job is not a class-act. Seriously - I have never seen such a display of unprofessionalism and inability to effectively manage your personal feelings in the workplace. Do you think you are the only one's in this world who feel this way?
Talking about working excessive hours is one thing - but to complain about stupid stuff like kool-aid, cold lunch boxes, office affairs and the like is dispicable.
Ex-Prizer - One good point you brought up was that many IT jobs have what you call "regular" hours. Our company's response to that is to outsource these jobs overseas because there's a guy in India who will work twice as hard as any of you for a fraction of the money to get the job done. I am comforted in knowing that there are still Americans out there (like at EPrize) who are keeping the work in the U.S. and meeting up to the challenge of the Global Economy.
Move on people - the Global Economy is only going to make things worse - the days of cushy jobs will eventually come to an end. Whether you except that now or later is up to you...
8:25 AM
Autosupplier, maybe you should stay out of grown folks business. Do you honestly believe that these posts are us "complaining about stupid stuff like kool-aid, cold lunch boxes, office affairs and the like". Give me a break! We are making points based on principles. And just for the record, those things...the kool-aid and cold lunch boxes are inside information that you would know nothing about especially since it appears that you have a penchent for picking up bits and pieces from the posts and running amuck.
Let me break it down for you. What is wrong with recieving a cold lunch box meal is that meetings are consistently scheduled during lunch. Why? Because we all love one another. Wrong. Because Leadership (they will never admit this) would rather have us work through lunch. That's what is wrong. Once in a while is fine. Even leading up to a big launch or the conclusion of a big project. Four times a week is just wrong.
You mentioned that the aforementioned complaints are "dispicable". What is despicable is when a married VP is interested in cheating on his wife with an employee. What is despicable is when a member of leadership emails an employee about "poor performance" and when they respond diplomatically and professionally to dispel the myth, the employee is disciplined and/or let go. What is despicable is when a member of Leadership walks around a group meeting asking if any Group Leader would like to fire anyone on that particular.
Please realign your commentary so that what you are posting actually makes sense in context of the other posts.
Take care and God's speed.
1:11 PM
Welcome to the real world buddy - yes I know it sucks. I'll keep returning just to see how long you stupid idiots continue to dwell on this. Hell - I might forward this site to everyone I know so they can come on and continue to keep you idiots all worked up. I know several people who have and are in the process of applying there - I think they will get a kick out of you. It's really entertaining for me to watch people feel sorry for themselves. Yes I know - as you said - I am not reading between the lines - and I'm not smart enough to receive and comprehend your beautifully articulated points - I would like to hear more from you about how I am way off base - but I got people I need to lay off.
1:53 PM
Damn, I didn't realize that I was a "stupid idiot"... sorry, I'll quit posting now.
Oh wait, that's right... I'm entitled to my opinion and actually have a right to post here given my employment with the company in question.
I wish I had the free time to post bullshit on other peoples' blogs in an effort to piss them off. Maybe I should switch to the automotive industry? Though I might not qualify, apparently I value personal time, honesty and respect a little too much.
So I was wondering, how do you all like the current parking situation at ePrize? What about the seating arrangements and general desk assignments? I have an idea, let's hire more people! That always solves everything.
2:43 PM
Fred had a good job on a Michigan automotive assembly line earning about $32,000 a year. He worked hard and saved his money, including a modest trust fund left by grandparents.
He had seen many colleagues snort cocaine during and after work; one guy on the line was the dealer for office executives, too. His friends told him how good it felt. And one day Fred became curious. He remembers how it felt to be outside himself, free of responsibilities.
"I didn't know where I was," he said. "But I was just watching me wander around. It was so easy."
The next week Fred was curious again. And again. And soon he was smoking crack for the faster high and drinking a lot to ease the crash.
With $1,500 a week going up in cocaine smoke, the trust fund did not last long. He was bringing home less money for his wife and daughter. He took out some loans against his house. And for a while other family members gave him money.
"But then I became an outcast," he said. "They never knew who was at the door, the real Fred or the stranger who looked like him."
His wife and daughter left. he lost the house. And at least two efforts at rehabilitation failed.
"There's a madness out there," said Fred. "There are crack smokers sitting in offices making decisions and guys working on the line and running machines. And they don't believe they have a problem. It takes so long to learn. It's like blind men trying to lead blind men. They can't. So if you're blind, you better get yourself a dog."
http://www.haverford.edu/psych/ddavis/psych309/crack.htm
8:28 PM
The flames seem to be dying down. So, I propose some topics of discussion:
1. Average age and IQ of the women at ePrize (hint: the numbers are the same)
2. Is it more fun to be fired on a Monday or a Friday? Subtopic: CCW
3. How much Kool-Aid is your relationship/family really worth? Subtopic: Getting it on with your co-workers and concealing it from HR
4. Guessing game: How many working lunches did it take to pay off Josh's 5-series?
5. Guessing game: Rob - Man or Jabba the Hutt?
Now talk among yourselves.
11:17 AM
Link dedicated to all:
http://www.angermgmt.com/negativebehavior.asp
4:16 PM
That link really is a great example for all of us. It totally shows what can happen when a site isn't QA'd with Mozilla. It looks awful in my browser.
Doesn't help that it's HTML 3.2, all table based with some horrible CSS in the HEAD. Whover coded that might want to get with the 21st Century.
9:10 PM
Gotton? Penchent?
No wonder your dumb ass went to JWT.
10:22 PM
First, if any of you are in need of a copy editor, please feel free to grab a copy of cheftasticly's resume.
Second, I'm not at JWT intelligent one.
Further, I'd pick any agency over ePrize. Wait, did we ever determine if ePrize was an agency or a vendor?
Take care and God's speed.
1:39 AM
Sounds like the flame is still burning. Not surprising, really.
ePrize was a bad religion. The net result of its existence will be to make a very few people who already had lots of money, more money. It isn't revolutionizing anything. It isn't creating anything. Settle down, monkey... what's that smell?
7:58 PM
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